Where Responsible Reptile Keepers Connect!  



Go Back   Where Responsible Reptile Keepers Connect!

Notices

» Site Navigation
» Home
 > FAQ
 > ARCADE
 > Groups
» Recent Threads
Go to first new post all my tics over the...
Today 09:37 AM
Last post by Dannyboy
Today 05:15 PM
4 Replies, 39 Views
Go to first new post New Camera!
Yesterday 06:43 AM
Last post by AbsoluteApril
Today 05:09 PM
18 Replies, 103 Views
Go to first new post Fail
11-16-2008 06:53 AM
Last post by Ryancbj22
Today 05:06 PM
18 Replies, 164 Views
Go to first new post Morning
Today 01:53 PM
Last post by Kobi Baby
Today 03:22 PM
5 Replies, 27 Views
Go to first new post If rubbermade made cages
11-17-2008 12:49 AM
Last post by TammyJ
Today 03:14 PM
14 Replies, 112 Views
Go to first new post Goodbye my Precious Daddy
Yesterday 09:28 PM
Last post by TammyJ
Today 03:00 PM
8 Replies, 37 Views
Go to first new post Latest mugshot. Everyone...
06-17-2007 02:44 PM
Last post by Kobi Baby
Today 01:17 PM
1,621 Replies, 36,169 Views
» Advertisements

» Recent Classifieds
Go to first new post Tanzania day geckos...
11-16-2008 12:24 PM
by iyaomar
22 Views
Go to first new post 2007 fem boa het albino,...
11-10-2008 10:22 PM
50 Views
looking for chicks
11-08-2008 04:46 PM
43 Views
COLLECTION SALE!! low...
11-04-2008 10:51 AM
103 Views
Electric blue geckos (...
11-04-2008 08:29 AM
by ilaomar
84 Views
7/08 Dumeril Boas
10-26-2008 08:39 PM
108 Views
View Single Post
  #135 (permalink)  
Old 05-10-2008, 07:23 PM
razeraze's Avatar
razeraze razeraze is offline
Professional poop scooper
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Illinois
Posts: 1,965
Thanks: 608
Thanked 469 Times in 358 Posts
Rep Power: 490
razeraze has a reputation beyond reputerazeraze has a reputation beyond reputerazeraze has a reputation beyond reputerazeraze has a reputation beyond reputerazeraze has a reputation beyond reputerazeraze has a reputation beyond reputerazeraze has a reputation beyond reputerazeraze has a reputation beyond reputerazeraze has a reputation beyond reputerazeraze has a reputation beyond reputerazeraze has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 20,703.82
Bank: 153,515.06
Total Points: 174,218.88
 
If I am going to use substrate it is going to be dirt, now I have explained why I will not use other substrates and why I am hesitant about dirt.

Now you completely misunderstood my monitor post. If we did not adopt the blackthroat, Precious would be in juggernauts cage. Nothing would have changed except for maybe taking the dirt out (Maybe). There would be no monitor in the cage and I am ceretain she would have done fine in the cage. One of the other reasons we did not use such a deep cage was because Lou was dragged into a deep cage which made it difficult to get to the snake constricting him. So despite the retic being able to live in that cage, for our safety we are building a different cage. All of these decisions were talked about before we adopted the blackthroat.

Do not assume you know, and don't worry I am constantly cleaning cages any ways, I just find constantly dumping substrate in the trash to be wasteful and not necessary. Here is another good quote
"Razeraze, there's a very simple answer to your question. If I want to go out herping, I will choose different times of the day to herp for different reptiles, even if it's the same day and in the same locale. In the middle of the day on the hottest summer days, when the sun is directly above and it's uncomfortably hot you will rarely, if ever, see something like a red-bellied blacksnake out basking or foraging, but that sort of day is almost guaranteed to get you a few sightings of active monitors. Diamond pythons, which share a lot of the same habitat as lace monitors in my area, are nocturnal during the hot summer, but will happily wander around by day in winter.

So, we have the same locale, same general climate, yet each reptile uses it differently - accessing a different microclimate temporally. They may have to deal with the same ambient temperatures, but their basking temperatures are entirely different." crocdoc

"Thank you. I thought it would only be different for diurnal and nocturnal species, I did not think two diurnal lizards would not do well in a similar enclosure. If the cages are set up with natural environment in mind and the cool spots are offered as well as the hot spots wouldn't the reptile thermo regulate as it saw fit? For instance if you kept a bearded dragon and a lace monitor, wouldn't the monitor just use the spots it felt necessary and the bearded do the same?" me

"Ideally, yes - provided the lace monitor didn't eat the bearded dragon first, which is the most likely scenario

There's one problem, though. In captivity we are limited by space, so we tend to make each enclosure have as much of the preferred conditions for the animal being kept. Bearded dragons and monitors are not as far off each other as a snake and a monitor would be, though, in terms of basking spot preferences. Monitors just like it generally hotter. You'd probably find that you'd see less of the bearded dragon and more of the monitor if the enclosure were a bit on the hotter side, and vice versa if the enclosure were a bit cooler.

I have a favourite wild lace monitor spot that I take visiting herpers to when they're in town. If it's a hot sunny day, we'll see lacies. If it's a bit overcast and not quite as hot, sometimes the lacies aren't readily found wandering about so I'll stop at a waterfall that's on the way back and will be almost guaranteed to find a pair of water dragons that lives there. That way we're not completely skunked. On hot days, the water dragons are much harder to find, as they aren't out in the open but are wedged into crevices. Consequently, it's usually an 'either or' thing." crocdoc


So a snake a lizard or what ever can be thrown into a large cage they will just use it differently. Currently in the BCI cage we have a hot spot of 150F+ I told my fiance it was too hot and she put it in anyways. Do you know what happened? The snake never uses it, it is just dead space. The snake does not go up there and cook, or burn herself she simply does not use it.
__________________
when I was little I dreamed of giant snakes and dragons.... now I live with them.

Dr. Ian Malcolm: "Oh, yeah. Oooh, ahhh, that's how it always starts. Then later there's running and screaming."
Jurassic park
Reply With Quote
 
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1

All times are GMT. The time now is 05:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2007 AitonCreations - Each post is owned by he who posted it!
ReptiRank - Top Reptile Sites for Snakes, Lizards, Iguanas, Turtles, and Reptiles