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Originally Posted by JuliusSqueezer
Yeah...FDR made this country great for a lot more people than just the richest. I find it a little telling that the republicans bash him even now and try to downplay everything he did. If they had their way, it would all go back to...just a few greedy rich folks and everybody else would be starving...kinda like the motions set forth by Bush who is even bringing down the majority of big business in favor of just his oil tycoon buddies.
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And in making the country great he ruined the financial backing of the entire nation. Up untill that point our money was backed in either gold or silver. Taking that away to increase spending for projects (which were really good ones and much needed BTW) to a cost way over the amount our cash reserves were backed by was not the greatest idea ever. But then we enetered into a "war economy" and things looked better as we were making goods and products at a higher rate than ever before. What we should have done at the war's end was totally crimple the German and Japanese by inforcing war repayments. But we went in and rebuilt what we destroyed.. Had we demanded and gotten repayments the dollar would still be strong as the yen would have taken another 30 years to out match the dollar.
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It's fascinating that people that WILL and DO suffer at the hands of republican policies and design support it because all of the "conservative" views they toss in to gain the church vote even though those things are just political lures that have no chance of ever panning out but do great to steer people away from focusing on the economy.
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I am all for the strict seperation of church and state. Yet in the south you see the baptists pretty much running the show. Take for example Alabama. Every time a bill comes up to allow a state lottery the baptists go running down to Montgomery in mass to fight it. Yet the funding they get to fight it comes from certain Mississippi casino PAC's. Their latest theory to oppose casino's and a lottery was that it takes money away from the poor. I'm of the opinion if you go out and loose your entire gov't check at the craps table or in buying lottery tickets your stupid. And by the laws of natural selection you should starve and die.
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"Dems will raise taxes!!!" LOL...It's not really raising anyone's taxes by merely cutting out some of the crap big business is being allowed to get away with like receiving billions in refunds on taxes they never paid to begin with.
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On personal income democrats are known to increase taxes for the most part. And by increasing taxes on business do you mean over all taxes or limit the amount of incentives they get for building in a certain area? Reason I ask is Alabama has been known for offering super sweet incentive packages for big business that chooses to build here. Prime examples are Mercedes Benz, Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, and the latest Thiessen Krupp. And talks are ongoing with VW and Porsche to build automotive plants in the state also.
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Even if it did, I'd rather pay a bit more in taxes than to keep borrowing from China to the point the dollar isn't worth anything anyway. Does it really help anyone to save a couple of bucks if those bucks won't spend?
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Also consider the dollar is based upon "new start" construction also. With numbers at a low thanks to the sub prime blunder the economy really suffers. The only new starts that are up are commercial and mainly apartment buildings. Got to have some where for these people to live once they get kicked out of the houses they had no business getting in the first place.
And no it wasn't all the people's fault. Brokers got greedy and fitched numbers where they should not have. In simple terms it is like this. A guy works at McDonalds flipping burgers and goes into a bank to get a loan on a new Lambo LP640. He is honest on his application and puts down he makes 35,000 dollars a year. The loan officer in order to get him approved and get a commission on the loan adds in another 0 and makes it where he makes 350,000 dollars a year. The loan is approved, the guy pickes up his car, and 4 months later it gets repo'ed because he could not afford to make the 5423.43 dollar a month payments. It wasn't the guy working at McDonalds fault, he was just seeing if he could get a loan. In most cases he would be turned down but the loan officer fudged the documents and with income like that he was approved by the upper management at the bank. Same thing happened with this sub prime blunder. Not in all cases but some. Add in the "interest only loans" and the way it was set up and you have problems.
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We are headed for another great depression. It's going to take another FDR to get us out of it so go out today and hug a democrat. That's who's going to save the country if it can be saved...unless of course you are one of Bush's oil buddies in which case, you will still get to be nasty rich, just not off of middle American blood.
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Maybe, but none of the current front runners have what it takes. John McCain is an ok guy but he doesn't have it either. I just like him because no one messes with him in Washington. The guy can be a total tyrant and scares people. Which is good to a certain extent. Clinton lies with such ease it is just down right scary, and Obama..... Who really knows what that guy will do if elected? I do know one thing if he is elected. He should take the advice Dave Chappell was giving in his stand up skit about the first black president. Chappell in his skit says the first black president better watch out and be smart enough to get a vice president that will insure no one tries to kill him. In the skit he says a Mexican vice president would do that.
As he said "You kill me he'll just open up the boarders completely. Isn't that right vice president Santiago? (Santiago answers) "Se".. I think the country as a whole will be more receptive of a black president without the religious affiliations Obama has. Honestly the guy is a quick study and pretty sharp but I just don't think he will be accepted warmly at all. Look at all the mess with Mitt Romney..
