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Originally Posted by JuliusSqueezer
Chappell's thoughts on VP are dead on lol. I was thinking Hillary would keep him pretty safe  He's also half white btw. How come the white half doesn't factor in for any of the racist critics? |
You got me on that one. I could really care less what ethnic backround they are as long as they will actually do what they promise.
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Originally Posted by JuliusSqueezer
You can't take anything away from FDR, sorry. Nothing. There are other things to back money with besides gold and silver. Apparently Arab oil isn't the answer either The numbers speak for themselves. Under democrat rule, we have more stable economy and a strong middle class. Everything else is fluff and gruff. The republican way = no middle class whatsoever and even the upper middle class is subject to poverty if they get their way. I don't care about abortion or gun control or gay marriage. I don't believe any of those church issues will ever reach a radical point anyway so they are moot points that are only ever really addressed with any gusto during campaigns. FDR stepped in and brought the country out of a seemingly hopeless depression. The gold and silver backing our money obviously wasn't enough. It all sounds good and it's easy to claim that was better. But...there was NO MIDDLE CLASS. The majority of America was POOR...until FDR. Now...granted a lot of people lived somewhat comfortable as far as not doing without by working hard ...very hard but they really didn't have anything. It's easy to look at Gone With the Wind and other Hollywood movies and assume that the majority of America had a lush life but the reality is, the plantation owners and other wealthy folks were an elite few. Everyone else was struggling to survive. Very rich and very poor is the way it's been for every civilization including ours ...until...FDR. My dad's name is Franklin Delano Gardin btw...My middle name is Franklin |
Under democrats the economy is stable??? Have you forgotten Jimmy Carter?? That man almost caused a total collapse of our economy and killed off the housing industry. A good person Carter is and I will freely admit to that. A crappy president though.
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My grandparents were tobacco farmers and suffered dearly through the depression. My great grandparents split and left the kids to fend for themselves. My grandfather at age 12, took his 8 year old brother and raised him ...and his self. They slept in barns, worked on farms...sometimes got a few pennies, sometimes got a meal. Sometimes worked all day and told to hit the road. Through the teens and twenties and into the thirties times were rougher than anyone alive today in America could possibly imagine. Even the "roaring twenties" was pretty harsh for most. Yeah...The dollar was tied to gold and silver through all those years...but there wasn't enough of them to go around was there? Even as weak is the dollar is now, it's stronger than when it was tied to gold and silver and with a little tweaking of the economy by a strong democrat that's more concerned about the future of the country than lining his pockets by fluffing his oil buddies...Sorry but when things suck like they suck now, it's not the time to be conservative. It's time to be radical. Thank God we didn't get stuck with a non stop string of conservatives from Hoover to now or we'd still be in the same depression that FDR brought us out of...or speaking a different language ...probably Japanese or German. |
My great grandparents were cotton farmers. Nothing like hearing how 4000 acres of crop wasn't worth anything in those days. When my grandfather took over it didn't get much better till the war started. Between that and selling 1000 acres to then Southern Electrical Generating Company he did alright. The 60's were good years as were the early 70's. Then Carter came to office and it too a dump for 4 long years. And my grandfather was a die hard democrat but gave due props to Regan for turning what was a bad situation around. The 80's were really great years but he saw the writing on the wall. Family run farms were becoming a thing of the past. So he sold out and moved on.
As for the middle class. It is a newer concept as history never really had a middle class. You always had upper classes and those who worked for them. The good thing it does is balance the over all tax burden. If it wasn't for the middle class taxes would be sky high.. :scared: And being that there is more in the middle class than upper or poorer class they carry the bulk of the tax burden on sheer numbers alone.
And the whole backing the dollar by something solid is a tricky issue now days with the population as high as it is. Anything of value as a natural resource is limited in it's supply, yet we are not limited in our growth and that means we are not limited in our spending either. At the rate we are going we couldn't really base the value of the dollar on gold as we would be way over supply the second it was changed. You cannot base it on commodities either as nature has a way of messing with crop yields. The only way I see a turn in the economy happening is to take the 17 some odd million illegal aliens and send them packing back to their home countries. Not like they pay taxes anyway.. That would give a couple billion dollars surplus a year to start actually paying off some of these loans we have. That in turn will increase the standing of the dollar on the world market also. Also the job market would be flush with jobs since that seems to be a big worry now days also.
